Roll Call for DISD Teachers

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rollcallMany DISD teachers have commented here that they are leaving the district; some are leaving the teaching profession altogether while others are going to different districts. We are sad to see many of our best and brightest leaving but we understand their actions and what has driven them to the point of leaving.

The trustees, however, are lacking this understanding. They have been warned over and over again by the teachers, the education professionals, what would await the students in the fall if the “Miles’ machine” was not stopped. Miles’ program has NOT been about removing bad teachers and principals. It has been all about compliance.

We need an old-fashioned “Roll Call.” We cannot trust Charles Glover, the head of Human Capital Management, to give the trustees an accurate number of vacancies at each school. Therefore, we are asking teachers to please comment on this site and report the number of vacancies at your school. Remember, this site is completely anonymous, but do be careful not to include any information which might identify you to other readers. Please list details such as which school, what teachers are leaving (i.e., math, science, bilingual, elementary grade, etc.), and how many total vacancies are known so far.

The numbers at this point are shocking and will only increase as the July deadline for notification draws nearer. The administration is already having trouble staffing summer school, which is a red flag as in years past these were positions which were highly sought by teachers.

We are not asking for this information to encourage teachers to leave DISD. We want the trustees and the public to understand the damage that one year of Mike Miles has done to our district. They can talk about “reform” all they want, and all the theoretical reasons they think their plans should work, but no plan will work if the teachers are not included and on board with the strategies. No one can force a teacher to accept employment at a job they do not want.

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teacher
teacher

Is it true that one may resign to accept a position that involves a promotion?

top of the world
top of the world

Bh macon 2 retired and about 3 left with 3 wanting to leave because the principal there has no clue how to be an effective leader and has no back bone

NAIVE
NAIVE


I wasn't complaining, just wanted to be informed. By the way if DISD wants my position they can have it.I am a teacher in a high needed area bilingual, math and science certified with excellent proven record,  CILT and mentor teacher as well. I got job offers from Garland  and Irving. I just feel sorry for the DISD students who will suffer the consequences of this total chaos. So roll call put one more tally mark in your list of teachers leaving DISD.
signing off.

guestOfDISD
guestOfDISD

Mills Elem : 21 teachers are leaving out of 31. they are leaving because they got tired of the bullying from the now-demoted principal.

anon
anon

Gabe  Allen ES...8 people who have quit or retired this year. Usually, we have 1 or 2 people. The consensus is that Mr. Miles is destroying the district and they will not stand for our school to be eviscerated before their eyes. Never have seen this before in twenty years of teaching sweet children.

Anne Frank teachers leaving...3 during the year, 14 that I know of...some are waiting until the last day to resign, several are still looking.

HHS
HHS

Hillcrest High School had about 10 people quit, retire, transfer or be fired. 

Most non-science/math spots have been filled. Our coaching staff has been limited, so many of these spots will be filled by coaches.

One of our staff was hired into the Fellowship program, so a social studies spot just freed up but I am sure a coach will fill that spot. 

anon
anon

Kramer Elementary: 5 during school year, 2 retiring, 5 at end of year, 6 seriously looking.

What are we going to do
What are we going to do

This is actually off topic, but I want to say it so we can see if FMM is lying again. He announced at a focus group meeting on Monday that when pay for performance starts, the base pay, or lowest pay that you will get is not going to be lower  than 95% of what you are earning now. 

pennyfree2
pennyfree2

Teachers missing from my campus:

PE = 12 years service (RIF)

science = 3 years service (RIF)

social studies = 14 years of service (RIF)

special education = 11 years of service (RIF)

ISS = 12 years of service (resigned in lieu of forthcoming RIF)

ELA = 14 years of service (resigned)

Will these people get Severance Pay like the communications person who barely put in a year of service? 

At the start of the school year (and for the past 2 years) these people were part of a teaching staff that also included a math teacher, a computer teacher, a reading teacher, and a tutoring/study hall teacher.  That is a beginning teaching staff of 10 of which 6 are now gone.  This should raise the eyebrows of the school board.

AcatnamedSam
AcatnamedSam

Arcadia Park is losing 1 PK Bilingual, 1 Kindergarten Bilingual, 1 First Grade Bilingual, 1 Second Grade Bilingual, 1 Fourth Grade Bilingual and 1 4th Grade General Education. Five others are actively seeking other employment; two more have received contracts from other districts, but have yet to resign. Additionally, as an Imagination 2020 school, our Fifth Grade Science and Math Teachers will only teach 1/2 day and spend the remainder of the day in the role of Demonstration Teacher.

As a side note, new positions for next year include THREE (yes, 3!) Assistant Principals, 1 Instructional Coach, 1 RTI Coach and the aforementioned Demonstration Teachers.  Several of these additional people have already received Notification Letters.

Beer in Hand
Beer in Hand like.author.displayName 1 Like

I love LBART and others who keep talking the talk that the business community believes.... his/her talking points are almost verbatim what I hear at some gatherings.

I welcome all LBART has to say, because it gives us a chance to educate hundreds, if not thousands of people on the fallacies floating out there.

Welcome the comments as a chance to enlighten, to educate, which after all, IS OUR JOB.

Quo Qu ohhh
Quo Qu ohhh

@Beer in Hand Oh yes. I find increasing satisfaction in seeing the point at which they flee a discussion. The readership might find each instance significant, particularly when they follow a pattern.

disd
disd like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Excellent teachers in science were let go of, in order to hire professionals to tell already exceptional teachers at Townview how to be more curriculum oriented.  I thought the goal was to keep excellent educators.  If this practice is happening at schools across D.I.S.D., why make it a one size fits all, when certain schools are showing rigor, implementation, and completion of highly set norms and outcomes...

Quo Qu ohhh
Quo Qu ohhh like.author.displayName 1 Like

Why do LBart & "Enough is Enough" barge through here with their suppositions and teacher-beat-down mentalities, then mystically flee when the questions become too difficult for them. or someone asks for even a remote concept of how they fit into the food chain? Aren't there any dissenting voices who can truly back up their assertions, and not scramble back to the shire whenever their places in all of this are questioned? I welcome real debate.

LBart
LBart

@Quo Qu ohhh I'm not giving personal information and I haven't fled anything. I told you I can't speak to the budget. Ask MacNaughton if you have questions on it.

Quo Qu ohhh
Quo Qu ohhh

@LBart You can't speak to the budget? You must be joking. If you have nothing to say on the budget, why do you comment here at all?

MacNaughton doesn't bash teachers on this blog. I'm asking you.

Quo Qu ohhh
Quo Qu ohhh

@LBart I don't want your personal information, LBart. However, you could give some information about your current role: teacher? (snort...) admin? central staff? parent of current  DISD students? To continually post your rhetoric here without even hinting at your position within the community is cowardly at best.

NAIVE
NAIVE


What's the difference between term contract teacher and probationary contract teacher?

Is DISD offering probationary contracts for 2013-14 to all teachers?

ghost X
ghost X

If you have a probationary contract, you have no rights at all. This is according to the "union." 

You can be terminated after a year for nothing to do with your performance, and have no right of appeal.

This won't happen to you if you're TFA, though - there are a totally separate set of rules for them.

BlueBonnet
BlueBonnet

@ghost X This is VERY true!! I was on a probationary contract. The district use to have one year probationary, then extended them to two years, ect. I was on my fourth year and then at the end of last school year, I was laid off due to excessive teacher. Since I was probationary, I was S.O.L. regardless of the fact I had "Meets Expectations" on every PDAS and the only time I had been written up was for not wearing panty hose.

BlueBonnet
BlueBonnet

@Quo Qu ohhh @BlueBonnet @A is for Abigail @ghost X This was last school year before MMF, but once I received my letter, I got three "Below Expectations" on my PDAS and I was written up for stupid things. I appealed my PDAS and received a better evaluation. It gave me a higher score, but the areas I received the lowest were the ones about following directives. It all boils down to they had to let someone go, and since I was the new kid on the block at the school, but not the district, the principal had to justify why I was let go and not the others.

Bottom line: It's all subjective and the district likes to keep teachers on a probationary contract.

NAIVE
NAIVE

@ghost X after being term contract teacher, can DISD offer a probationary contract? it's that legal?

NAIVE
NAIVE

@NDHS Teacher @LBart @A is for Abigail @ghost X

I wasn't complaining, just wanted to be informed. By the way if DISD wants my position they can have it, I am not signing that probationary contract. I am a teacher in a high need area, bilingual math and science certified with excellent proven record,  CILT and mentor teacher as well. I got job offers from Garland  and Irving. I just feel sorry for the DISD students who will suffer the consequences of this total chaos. So roll call put one more tally mark in your list of teachers leaving DISD.

signing off.

A is for Abigail
A is for Abigail like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Quo Qu ohhh @A is for Abigail I hope they try to fire me bc my contract says Probationary.  I sincerely hope they do.  After what I saw happen to people during that last RIF, I will not go down with a long and expensive (for DISD) legal and public fight.

Bring it, Little Man.  Just bring it.

Book Fairy
Book Fairy

@A is for Abigail @ghost X We were actually without contracts for almost a year the year of the RIF.  I don't remember my last several contracts with regard to the "probationary" label, but they were all two year contracts.

A is for Abigail
A is for Abigail

@Quo Qu ohhh Thank you!  I wasn't trying to complain!  And I certainly didn't know I could just call someone in "contracts" and have them push a different button (yeah, right).

And who cares if it says Probationary or Term?  It's still for 1 year.

ghost X
ghost X

@A is for Abigail Or just non-renew a bunch of teachers who can't fight back & claim they must have been bad! Less work, and no one really gives a hoot about the effects on students and professionals. 

ghost X
ghost X

@LBart "Union.." pfft. This is Texas; they are eunuchs according to state law.

ghost X
ghost X

@LBart 3-4 years? I would think 1 year would be appropriate. Does anyone have data on how long teachers can be kept on probationary contract in other states? This seems outrageous to me, even in anti-worker, privatize-everything Texas.

Quo Qu ohhh
Quo Qu ohhh

@NDHS Teacher We're discussing general district policy, not the occasional "typo." You've been at a school with an excellent principal all year, so please spare us your judgement about "complaining."

Most contract issues are not the result of someone pushing the wrong button. They are a result of deliberate policies. Call it malice if you will. In the meantime, spare us your self-righteousness and slogans.

Quo Qu ohhh
Quo Qu ohhh

@A is for Abigail @ghost X Seriously? At the BOT meeting in which Willard was axed, so were the contracts of hundreds of teachers. Those with probationary contracts did not even get the courtesy of a separate vote, and were terminated by the Board in the same general consensus item vote which included snack and cleaning supply vendor deals.

While I normally regard Trustee Carla Ranger as the only voice of sanity up there, I did not appreciate that even she was part of the unanimous vote.

This is all in direct conflict with Miles' stated goals, since many of the teachers cut were new and effective. Lying liar and his enabling bunch.

Disrupted DISD
Disrupted DISD

@NDHS Teacher @LBart @A is for Abigail @ghost X 

That is great information.  Thank you.  Hopefully, other teachers will read this and correct their contracts, as well. 

I think you are correct.  There are probably many problems in DISD which can be attributed to incompetence. 

I also don't think Naive was complaining about the contract; it seemed that he/she wanted to clarify what was happening.  And by bringing up the question, someone (you) were able to provide the information. Granted, they probably could have found this out by doing what you did, but some might not think of that.

That is just one of the great purposes of this blog- to help spread information and to provide a forum where people can ask these kinds of questions which others can answer.

NDHS Teacher
NDHS Teacher

@LBart @A is for Abigail @ghost X  

And when I clicked to renew my contract, it was listed as probationary also.  But instead of coming on here to complain about it, I emailed contracts and they corrected it to a term contract.  I think someone just pushed the wrong button in the office.

Never attribute to malice what can be easily ascribed to incompetence.

LBart
LBart

@A is for Abigail @LBart @ghost X Well, I'm not an attorney or a BOT member, but I don't think they can do that. You cannot indefinitely have teachers on probationary contracts (although there exceptions like if you leave the district and come back, if you're teaching in a new certification area, etc.) 

The union is supposed to be an expert on this and I would also note that while TEC is written in legalese it is not THAT difficult for a layman to understand. What does the union say?

A is for Abigail
A is for Abigail

@LBart @A is for Abigail @ghost X I appreciated your TEC info.  And I am telling you every contract I have seen (my own and countless others) have read Probationary.  It alarms teachers every year.  

We are telling you what goes on in DISD.  If it doesn't line up with what you expect or what the law says, etc, that will only surprise you.  

We live this.  DISD kids live it, too.  If you have an ounce of morality, you will start listening to us.


LBart
LBart

@A is for Abigail @LBart @ghost X All teacher contracts say probationary? ALL of them? I would be seriously calling the union or TEA and investigating that because you have significantly different rights under a term contract than a probationary one. 

Probationary contracts are good because you can fire a bad hire at the end of the year without having to jump through a million hoops. They can be bad for good new teachers who are cut for budget reasons and a "last in/first out" philosophy, but this doesn't usually distress the mediocre teacher down the hall who is saved by this.

However, probationary contracts are not meant to be used as a weapon, which is why TEC specifies that districts can only use them for 3-4 years. After that, you must be let go or given a term contract with more rights. The intent is for the district to fish or cut bait with you, not dangle you indefinitely. And moving a teacher from term to probationary is, as the link shows, only to be done in lieu of nonrenewal. The district would essentially be saying, "We WERE going to fire you but we'll keep you around one more year and let's see if you shape up."

A is for Abigail
A is for Abigail

@LBart @A is for Abigail @ghost X Thanks LBart.  DISD must have gotten yet another waiver or something because all the contracts say Probationary and all the teachers freak out every year when they see them.

That said, when I signed my on-line contract this year (accessed through Oracle), I did not note if it still says Probationary.

This is also why all the blather about it being so hard to fire bad teachers is a flat-out lie that principals hide behind.  We all have 1-year contracts.  Just non-renew the bad teacher.

LBart
LBart

@A is for Abigail @ghost X Here's the Texas Education Code section on teacher contracts:

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/ED/htm/ED.21.htm

Sec. 21.106.  RETURN TO PROBATIONARY STATUS. (a) In lieu of discharging a teacher employed under a continuing contract, terminating a teacher employed under a term contract, or not renewing a teacher's term contract, a school district may, with the written consent of the teacher, return the teacher to probationary contract status.

(b)  Except as provided by Subsection (d), a teacher may agree to be returned to probationary contract status only after receiving written notice that the board of trustees of the school district has proposed discharge, termination, or nonrenewal.

(c)  A teacher returned to probationary contract status must serve a new probationary contract period as provided by Section 21.102 as if the teacher were employed by the district for the first time.

(d)  A teacher may agree to be returned to probationary contract status after receiving written notice of the superintendent's intent to recommend discharge, termination, or nonrenewal. Notice under this subsection must inform the teacher of the school district's offer to return the teacher to probationary contract status, the period during which the teacher may consider the offer, and the teacher's right to seek counsel. The district must provide the teacher at least three business days after the date the teacher receives notice under this subsection to agree to be returned to probationary contract status. This subsection does not require a superintendent to provide notice of an intent to recommend discharge, termination, or nonrenewal.

A is for Abigail
A is for Abigail

@Disrupted DISD @A is for Abigail @ghost X NO, there are no tenured teachers that I am aware of, but there is a lot of grandfathering that goes on in DISD, so who knows.  

After the last RIF, contracts went to 1-year contracts that say Probationary.  According to LBart, we should all be fired since this upcoming year will be the 5th year we are on Probationary contracts.

When I started with DISD, you had a 1-year contract and then you moved to a 3-year contract, but as I said, that all changed after the RIF and we did go back down to Probationary, which LBart also says can't happen.

LBart
LBart

@NAIVE @ghost X @NAIVE @ghost X You can be a on a probationary contract for up to four years. After that, the district must either offer you a term contract or terminate  you (per TEC). Once you have a term contract, I do not believe you can go down to probationary again unless you move districts. 

NAIVE
NAIVE

@ghost X the contract reads 

1 year  probationary ,

what happen to term contract in DISD ? 

is everybody getting prbationary 1 yr contracts? even after being for more than 5 yrs and successful record? 

disgruntled
disgruntled

@ghost X @disgruntled You could very well be right.  I went through the DISD AC program and assumed my experience just applied to ACers and TFA kids.  But, you know what happens when you assume . . .  

ghost X
ghost X

@NAIVE I can't imagine they'd make you go all the way back down to probationary, given that circumstance. Never say never, of course, but you sound safe.

ghost X
ghost X

@disgruntled @ghost X I thought it was for any teacher who is serving their first year with the district, at least according to HR at the beginning of this year. I was neither alt cert through DISD, not TFA, and received one. The HR people said they're being given out more and more often.

NAIVE
NAIVE

@ghost X I mean, being in the district for 5 years and request a transfer from one school to another one and having a excellent and proficient PDAS.

disgruntled
disgruntled

@NAIVE @ghost X A probationary contract is for people who go through something like TFA or the AC program. 

ghost X
ghost X

@NAIVE I am uncertain. If you mean for the following consecutive year, I would not imagine it to be legal. If you go away and then return to the district, that may be a different matter. This is an area in which NEA would be helpful. I'd say Alliance-AFT, but they are not always the most precise, imo.

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Foundation for Empowerment (FCE) released 3 papers:

1. Disruptive Change: Mike Miles and the Crisis In Dallas ISD, which has been prepared with consultation by education academics, extensive research, review of data and education literature, and meetings and interviews with people of Dallas holding varying and sometimes conflicting points of view;

2. Digging Into Data and Evidence: Mike Miles, Dallas ISD, and Trickle-Down Education Report, by Dr. Julian Vasquez Helig, Lindsay Redd, M.A. and Dr. Ruth Vail; and

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